Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/July 9th

[20:00]	Clg	Meeting officialy called to order
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[20:00]	Solar_Dragon	Two more people just in time
[20:00]	Solar_Dragon	Cook879, will cjc be attending?
[20:00]	Phinbart	It's 8 o'clock!
[20:00]	Clg	Need to change it to now
[20:00]	AleWi	Five people
[20:01]	Phinbart	Including ketchup (who's asleep)
[20:01]	AleWi	A Hunka Hunka Burns in Love [CABF18] was Pistol Whip
[20:01]	Phinbart	Excluding I meant
[20:01]	Phinbart	Thanks.
[20:01]	Cook879	probably at some point. he's not at his computer at the momen
[20:01]	Clg	First topic
[20:01]	Solar_Dragon	The new wiki...
[20:02]	Solar_Dragon	That's old news now
[20:02]	Clg	All Ok with it?
[20:02]	Phinbart	Is it a month now since we moved?
[20:02]	Solar_Dragon	A month a few days ago, yes
[20:02]	Phinbart	Cool.
[20:02]	AleWi	It was good that we moved, shoutwiki are closed again.
[20:03]	Solar_Dragon	I was so relieved when I found out that ShoutWiki broke again
[20:03]	Solar_Dragon	Not meaning that in a bad way
[20:03]	Clg	All happy with Jake?
[20:03]	Solar_Dragon	Yep, apart from the few bugs we've had
[20:03]	Phinbart	I'm currently waiting for the latest Fish Hooks ep to be uploaded to Youtube. My regular supplier got terminated.
[20:04]	Phinbart	If another crash happens, I'm moving to a new wiki server.
[20:04]	Phinbart	Next topic...competition?
[20:04]	Solar_Dragon	That shouldn't happen again Phinbart
[20:04]	Solar_Dragon	They'e moving ShoutWiki to a new server
[20:05]	Phinbart	Well, yeah.
[20:05]	Solar_Dragon	So, yeah, the competition
[20:05]	Solar_Dragon	We need more entrants
[20:05]	AleWi	They move from poland to USA the server.
[20:05]	Clg	Poland??
[20:05]	Solar_Dragon	Moved to Skizzerz' back up server
[20:05]	Solar_Dragon	The server was in Poland
[20:06]	Phinbart	I had to use my brain last night to remember the events of "Old Yeller-Belly" to add a bit to the treehouse page.
[20:06]	Solar_Dragon	Why not just watch the ep again?
[20:06]	Cook879	that would be too easy :{
[20:06]	Cook879	*:P
[20:06]	Solar_Dragon	Which reminds me, we may have to terminate our affiliation with IWTSO
[20:07]	Phinbart	Why?
[20:07]	Solar_Dragon	They haven't updated their link and I can't get through to them
[20:07]	Phinbart	Updated link?
[20:07]	Solar_Dragon	link to us
[20:07]	Cook879	http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/07/08/homer-simpson-invitation-prince-william-kate-middleton/
[20:07]	Solar_Dragon	They still have ShoutWiki
[20:07]	Phinbart	Oh!
[20:08]	Phinbart	Also, Season 23 premieres this September 25th.
[20:08]	AleWi	I look again the part if I write something.
[20:09]	Phinbart	Huh?
[20:09]	Clg	Next topic.......
[20:09]	Solar_Dragon	Still haven't discussed the comp to omuch
[20:09]	Solar_Dragon	*too much
[20:09]	Solar_Dragon	Three entrants is not enough
[20:09]	Solar_Dragon	And first place is first by a mile
[20:09]	AleWi	In a few months we have the season 14 on DVD, i should order that next week.
[20:10]	Clg	Everyone here should enter.
[20:10]	Phinbart	I think Mythigator's winning at the moment.
[20:10]	Solar_Dragon	Except me obviously
[20:10]	Solar_Dragon	At the moment, everyone who entered will win a prize
[20:10]	Cook879	wasn't it also meant to get us new editors?
[20:10]	Phinbart	Ooooooh...the lottery.
[20:10]	AleWi	I should also add part of my contribution on the comp.
[20:11]	Phinbart	My comment there was off-topic.
[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	That's good AleWi, I'll also offer international postage
[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	Just a bit Phinbart
[20:11]	Clg	Postage free?
[20:11]	Phinbart	He-he.
[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	is secretly hoping that Brits win, not overseas people
[20:11]	Phinbart	Huh?
[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	Free postage too, yes
[20:12]	Solar_Dragon	Overseas postage would cost more
[20:12]	AleWi	There are some who write here from the U.S. and New Zealand also.
[20:12]	Solar_Dragon	Mythigator is American, second place is British
[20:12]	Phinbart	So's third place.
[20:12]	Solar_Dragon	Yep
[20:13]	Clg	Are you using 1st class or 2nd class?
[20:13]	Cook879	visitors declined yesterday
[20:13]	Phinbart	Why does Sky1 always stop airing new episodes of Season 22? We've just got "The Real Housewives of Fat Tony" here.
[20:13]	Solar_Dragon	Whatever Winning Moves uses (I'll order direct from them)
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	Visitors have been declining for a while
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	A few days
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	OK, new skin design comp
[20:14]	AleWi	I have not seen clear season 22 either, here is break to fall.
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	Anyone else going to enter?
[20:14]	Cook879	well we went up again but dropped lower
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	I know
[20:14]	Cook879	someone could combine the skins
[20:14]	Clg	When are you going to end it?
[20:15]	Phinbart	On August 1st. I think.
[20:15]	Cook879	well it was a month from July 7, but that's been
[20:16]	Solar_Dragon	It was going to but I'm waiting for Jake to submit his skin design
[20:16]	Solar_Dragon	Maybe I should remind him
[20:16]	AleWi	If the winner it outside the EU there may be to the customs.
[20:16]	AleWi	In the comp
[20:17]	Phinbart	Does anyone know what time 9pm PST is in GMT time?
[20:17]	Solar_Dragon	Winning Moves offers worlwide postage so no worries
[20:17]	Solar_Dragon	It's BST atm Phinbart
[20:17]	Solar_Dragon	British Summer Time
[20:17]	AleWi	They have summer time in US too
[20:17]	Phinbart	That's what I ment.
[20:18]	Phinbart	So...
[20:18]	AleWi	5 am
[20:18]	AleWi	wrong
[20:18]	Phinbart	5am! Tomorrow morning!
[20:18]	Phinbart	Oh.
[20:18]	Solar_Dragon	PDT is 12:18
[20:19]	Phinbart	PST
[20:19]	Solar_Dragon	So, anyone want to combine the skin designs?
[20:19]	Solar_Dragon	PDT is the summer version of PST
[20:19]	Phinbart	Right.
[20:19]	AleWi	http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/
[20:19]	Solar_Dragon	Just like BST is the summer version of GMT
[20:20]	Phinbart	Looks like I'm not the only one on the internet who made a mistake with the summer time zones.
[20:20]	AleWi	PDT end on Sunday 6 November 2011
[20:20]	Phinbart	November?
[20:20]	Solar_Dragon	Why can't the whole world have the same time?
[20:20]	Solar_Dragon	And speak the same language?
[20:21]	Clg	Time Zones are confusing
[20:21]	Solar_Dragon	Make things easier
[20:21]	Phinbart	I know. It's so confusing.
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[20:21]	Solar_Dragon	Any way, bugs with the wiki
[20:21]	Solar_Dragon	Hi cjc, been keeping a log
[20:21]	Clg	hey cjc
[20:21]	Solar_Dragon	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/July_9th
[20:21]	Phinbart	CJC's here!
[20:21]	cjc	hey
[20:21]	cjc	cool cool
[20:22]	Solar_Dragon	You may have noticed that polls aren't working
[20:22]	cjc	can't say I have
[20:22]	Solar_Dragon	Jake is trying to fix this but in the meantime, we need a workaround
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[20:23]	Solar_Dragon	For Golden Homer polls, they'll instead be listed with users voting by signing their name underneath
[20:23]	Solar_Dragon	Hopefully, they would have been fixed by then though
[20:23]	Clg	Workaround could be people just signing
[20:23]	Solar_Dragon	<_<
[20:24]	Phinbart	Cook879, got the new Simpsons Comic yet?
[20:24]	Clg	Other bugs?
[20:24]	Solar_Dragon	Okay, CategoryTOC no longer works
[20:24]	Solar_Dragon	Not sure how to get around that, it works on Wikipedia still
[20:25]	Cook879	i don't buy new comics
[20:25]	AleWi	The wiki form not works
[20:25]	Phinbart	Oh.
[20:25]	Solar_Dragon	Yes, the forum doesn't work either although that is a lesser bug
[20:25]	Solar_Dragon	And BASEPAGENAME no longer works
[20:25]	Clg	Main page social profiles glitch
[20:25]	Solar_Dragon	There is a workaround but it is not fun
[20:25]	Phinbart	What?
[20:25]	Solar_Dragon	Again, that is a lesser bug
[20:26]	Clg	That'll never get fixed
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	For BASEPAGENAME, we could go about adding something to the EpisodePrevNextApp/Ref etc.
[20:26]	Phinbart	Or will it?
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	Like |name=Episode name
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	Social profile thing, no idea about that
[20:26]	Phinbart	Hmm...I like it.
[20:27]	Clg	There's still the Retrieved from "http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Main_Page" at the bottom of the main page
[20:27]	Phinbart	That's BIG.
[20:27]	Solar_Dragon	We would have to add it to like 500 episodes though, and the tabs
[20:27]	Phinbart	and wierd.
[20:27]	Solar_Dragon	Thanks Clg, need to remind Jake about that
[20:27]	Phinbart	That's a bummer.
[20:28]	AleWi	is there anyone who can make a robot?
[20:28]	Clg	there's 3
[20:28]	Clg	Solar's, Cook's, and mine
[20:29]	Cook879	i doubt AWB could do it
[20:29]	Solar_Dragon	I don't think AWB can do it, nor can Pywikipedia
[20:29]	Phinbart	AWB? Pywikipedia? What the...?
[20:29]	Solar_Dragon	Actually, maybe it can
[20:30]	Clg	maybe we could create a code
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	No, it can't
[20:30]	Phinbart	Ok, I have NO idea what you guys are taking about.
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	Doubt it, that would take longer that if we were to do it manually
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	AWB and Pywikipedia are bots
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	Bot software I mean
[20:31]	Clg	A code is quite hard to explain.....
[20:34]	Clg	Next topic then
[20:35]	Phinbart	Solar's back.
[20:35]	Solar_Dragon	Simpsons Fanon viewers are bad
[20:35]	Solar_Dragon	Graph: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/File:Simpsons_Fanon_viewers.png
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	That was what I was trying to post
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	I didn't want to save it though
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	Wanted a direct link
[20:36]	Cook879	Solar_Dragon: how do i get on the simpsons fanon piwik?
[20:36]	AleWi	Fan series are not of equal interest.
[20:36]	Phinbart	The number of articles in the statisitics is way different from the actual number of articles on Simpsons Fanon.
[20:36]	Cook879	forgot we had a fanon wiki now
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	On the right hand side, there should be a dropdown box for simpsonswiki Cook879
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	Click on that
[20:37]	cjc	peaked 12?
[20:37]	Cook879	cheers
[20:37]	Phinbart	The number of fanon eps is 47, there are "26" articles.
[20:37]	Solar_Dragon	13
[20:37]	Clg	OMG 12!
[20:37]	Cook879	98 visitors altogether
[20:37]	Solar_Dragon	Leave Jake a message Phinbart
[20:37]	Phinbart	What are you guys talking about
[20:37]	Solar_Dragon	Simpsons Fanon viewers
[20:37]	Phinbart	I think I'll do that later.
[20:38]	AleWi	480 visitors
[20:38]	Phinbart	Is the webchat on Simpsons Fanon different to this web chat?
[20:38]	Solar_Dragon	No
[20:39]	Solar_Dragon	In fact, all viewers for Simpsons Fanon are from the UK
[20:39]	Phinbart	is shocked!
[20:39]	Solar_Dragon	We need to get it out there to the www more
[20:40]	AleWi	The most common are own ads but it costs.
[20:40]	Phinbart	Anyone want a sneak peek at an episode I'll be posting soon on Simpsons Fanon?
[20:40]	Solar_Dragon	I'm gonna ask Smiley to make a button for it and ask for affiliation with other sites
[20:40]	Solar_Dragon	Phinbart, do you use Chrome?
[20:41]	Phinbart	Yes! Why?
[20:41]	Solar_Dragon	The pie chart for browsers is just one block of colour
[20:41]	Cook879	
[20:41]	Solar_Dragon	The browser is chrome
[20:41]	cjc	so the only user is Phinbart @{
[20:41]	Phinbart	Ha-ha!
[20:41]	cjc	:P*
[20:42]	Phinbart	A few other users have posted fanon eps.
[20:42]	Phinbart	Does anyone use the original Wikisimpsons forums created last December?
[20:43]	Clg	NO
[20:43]	Solar_Dragon	Ooh, the Portoguese Simpsons Wikia has expressed an interest to move
[20:43]	Clg	YAY!
[20:43]	Solar_Dragon	*Portuguese
[20:43]	Solar_Dragon	Got a message via Twitter
[20:43]	Cook879	they are always tweeting - don't understand a word of it
[20:44]	Solar_Dragon	They use Translate to talk to me
[20:44]	Solar_Dragon	
[20:44]	Solar_Dragon	*Google Translate
[20:44]	Cook879	thats what i did when i was interwiking
[20:45]	Phinbart	Next topic? Rise up the google Rankings.
[20:45]	Solar_Dragon	We are already quite high already
[20:45]	Phinbart	So, can we skip that one?
[20:45]	Solar_Dragon	Once the ShoutWiki wiki closes, we'll be higher
[20:45]	AleWi	If i search simpsons wiki its on place 9
[20:46]	AleWi	shotwiki is on place 6
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	9 for me too
[20:46]	AleWi	wikia is on the top
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	Same
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	Oh yeah, that reminds me
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	You now need an account to edit Simpsons Wikia
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	And you need email confirmed
[20:46]	Phinbart	7th when I search "wikisimpsons"
[20:46]	Clg	Same
[20:47]	Solar_Dragon	I spammed Simpsons Wikia so much, they blocked anonymous editing!
[20:47]	AleWi	wikisimpsons is place 7th to me
[20:47]	Clg	How do you know pt wants to move?
[20:48]	Cook879	<Solar_Dragon>: Got a message via Twitter
[20:48]	AleWi	He said it, via Twitter
[20:48]	Clg	Ok
[20:48]	Solar_Dragon	...
[20:48]	cjc	wikisimpsons - 4th on yahoo, 7th google, 10th bing
[20:48]	Solar_Dragon	Effluvium has defected it looks like
[20:49]	cjc	linkkkkk
[20:49]	Solar_Dragon	http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
[20:50]	Solar_Dragon	Then again, he could be ruining the wiki more
[20:51]	Phinbart	oooh! Old infoboxes!
[20:51]	cjc	hmm...seems both ways
[20:51]	cjc	removed article comments
[20:51]	AleWi	We are bigger than Wikia.
[20:51]	cjc	added new editor
[20:51]	Phinbart	Next topic? Forecasts. Forecasts? What the...?
[20:52]	cjc	changing layout
[20:52]	Clg	Why is the Wikisimpsons page higher than main one?
[20:52]	Cook879	http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Effluvium
[20:53]	AleWi	Next subject?
[20:53]	Solar_Dragon	THE LOOK IS NOT FUCKING UNIQUE! IT IS OUR LOOK! THEY STOLE IT!!!
[20:54]	Solar_Dragon	</random outburst>
[20:54]	cjc	Technicly, I stole it, then they just kept it when we moved
[20:55]	Cook879	that would be why he removed it if he is working there.
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[20:56]	Solar_Dragon	What does it mean by forecasts?
[20:56]	Phinbart	No idea.
[20:57]	cjc	see, I have no clue what eff is doing - he is half improving, half ruining
[20:57]	Solar_Dragon	
[20:57]	Phinbart	Doh5678 put "forecasts"
[20:58]	Solar_Dragon	Clg, what do you mean by forecasts?
[20:58]	Clg	The process of making statements about events whose actual outcomes (typically) have not yet been observed
[20:58]	cjc	so, predicting the future?
[20:58]	Solar_Dragon	forecasts about what?
[20:58]	Solar_Dragon	OK, by the end of the year, we would have OVER 9000!!! articleas
[20:58]	Solar_Dragon	*articles
[20:59]	=-=	ketchup|asleep is now known as ketchup
[20:59]	Solar_Dragon	Hi ketchup
[20:59]	ketchup	hello sola
[20:59]	ketchup	r
[20:59]	Phinbart	Who are you?
[20:59]	Solar_Dragon	ASWA is the other thing we need to discuss
[20:59]	Solar_Dragon	He's offering ASWA hosting
[20:59]	ketchup	i am part of ASWA now apparently
[20:59]	AleWi	In four weeks we get 373
[20:59]	Phinbart	Anti Shoutwiki alliance?
[20:59]	Solar_Dragon	<_<
[21:00]	Clg	We like SW
[21:00]	Solar_Dragon	Animated Sitcom Wiki Alliance
[21:00]	Clg	Shout Wiki
[21:00]	Phinbart	Oh!
[21:00]	Phinbart	Sorry.
[21:00]	ketchup	i only got about 20 mins right now tho
[21:00]	Cook879	remind me to mention something when we finish the list...
[21:00]	Clg	ASWA then
[21:01]	Clg	What should the domain end with?
[21:01]	Cook879	so us, infosphere - what else?
[21:01]	Solar_Dragon	That's it until we've discussed this in more detail
[21:01]	Solar_Dragon	ketchup, could you set up the domain as .net and set up a basic forum on it or something?
[21:02]	ketchup	yeah, but is .net the way we want to go?
[21:02]	Clg	Lets vote.
[21:02]	Clg	All in favour
[21:03]	Solar_Dragon	Yep
[21:03]	cjc	Sure
[21:03]	AleWi	yes
[21:03]	Clg	Yep
[21:03]	Clg	All against
[21:03]	ketchup	so it's aswanetwork.net?
[21:04]	Solar_Dragon	That seems fine
[21:04]	Clg	Why net aswa.net?
[21:04]	ketchup	because that's already taken
[21:04]	ketchup	me and will_k discussed this
[21:04]	Solar_Dragon	http://aswa.net/
[21:04]	ketchup	the only available top level domain for aswa is aswa.mobi
[21:05]	ketchup	and that costs more
[21:05]	Clg	The domain is fine
[21:05]	Solar_Dragon	Yeah
[21:05]	ketchup	is there anybody against aswanetwork.net
[21:06]	Solar_Dragon	That's a no
[21:07]	Phinbart	I got bored earlier so I made a Fish Hooks blog: http://fishhookswiki.blogspot.com/
[21:07]	Phinbart	*Fish Hooks Wiki blog
[21:07]	Solar_Dragon	Cool
[21:08]	Cook879	anyway i was going to say about the future of simpsonary and the news wiki. I think all the content could easily be merged with the main wiki
[21:09]	Solar_Dragon	I guess so
[21:09]	Solar_Dragon	Just new namespaces
[21:09]	Solar_Dragon	Dictionary: and News:
[21:09]	Cook879	yeah
[21:10]	Clg	Have we exhausted the list?
[21:10]	Solar_Dragon	Yep
[21:10]	Solar_Dragon	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Animated_sitcoms
[21:10]	Solar_Dragon	Possible wikis to add to the alliance
[21:11]	Cook879	a list of wikis would be more helpful
[21:11]	Solar_Dragon	
[21:11]	Solar_Dragon	Don't have any of those
[21:11]	Solar_Dragon	I might try and set something up so I can take on some possible wikis
[21:12]	Clg	So, American Dad, Family Guy then?
[21:12]	AleWi	You can only found a few fansites on Wikipedia.
[21:12]	ketchup	so far the only wikis i've found that aren't wikia are simpsonswiki and the infosphere
[21:12]	ketchup	i saw somebody on infosphere talkingabout makign an american dad wiki on shoutwiki
[21:13]	Solar_Dragon	There's already one
[21:13]	Solar_Dragon	Same for Family Guy and South Park
[21:13]	ketchup	oh. i was not aware of that
[21:14]	Phinbart	Wow, there's a lot of animated sitcoms.
[21:14]	Solar_Dragon	If we can persuade the Wikia wikis to move to ShoutWiki or I start paying for others to become independent, that would be good
[21:14]	AleWi	Fox shows four every Sunday
[21:14]	Solar_Dragon	Only problem is, I am low on money so that may not be possible
[21:16]	ketchup	alright. there was a problem with registering the domain. i have to call the number to work out the problem. but i don't have time right now. i'll do my best to have aswanetwork.net online by midnight my time which is 7.5 hours
[21:17]	Solar_Dragon	OK, thanks ketchup
[21:17]	AleWi	You not really hurry.
[21:17]	ketchup	no problem.
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[21:17]	Clg	Why by midnight
[21:18]	Cook879	realises he put the wrong name in the edit summary
[21:18]	cjc	because its just a good time to go by
[21:19]	Solar_Dragon	Urm... "Simpsons Wiki has a problem"
[21:19]	Cook879	
[21:19]	Cook879	i was trying to save a page
[21:20]	AleWi	The website its slow for me.
[21:21]	Solar_Dragon	I'm guessing Jake's fiddeling with something
[21:22]	AleWi	Cook879 you save was save
[21:22]	Cook879	good, i managed to go back and back it up in case
[21:24]	Phinbart	Slow?
[21:24]	AleWi	not now¨
[21:24]	Clg	When should the next meeting be?