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:The Simpsons is not the same as the movie Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. They are different. And when the subtitles and Simpsons World give his name as Payne, not Paine, that is what we go with as that is what the show calls him. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 06:53, February 9, 2024 (EST) | :The Simpsons is not the same as the movie Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. They are different. And when the subtitles and Simpsons World give his name as Payne, not Paine, that is what we go with as that is what the show calls him. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 06:53, February 9, 2024 (EST) | ||
::I wouldn't push back this much except unlike a lot of other movie references or parodies, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" is so central to the episode and the episode itself so explicit about the real-world movie (to the point of literally having Jimmy Stewart's daughter). Unsure if you ever watched it, but it just looks weird having not being Senator Paine as much as this wiki had Clarke Kent and if the subtitles had Clarke Kent, this wouldn't even be an issue. I get Senator Paine isn't a major part of pop culture and this is very, very minor, but if the remake was "Mr. Smyth Goes To Washington" I'd buy this being deliberate, but a scenario is that it's just a misspelling which wouldn't be very usual since Paine and Payne sound the same or two they go to such effort to literally designing the Sen. Paine character to look like Claud Rains and say the same lines while copying his voice, but changed the spelling for no real reason and only did it for outside the episode. [[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 08:34, February 9, 2024 (EST) | ::I wouldn't push back this much except unlike a lot of other movie references or parodies, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" is so central to the episode and the episode itself so explicit about the real-world movie (to the point of literally having Jimmy Stewart's daughter). Unsure if you ever watched it, but it just looks weird having not being Senator Paine as much as this wiki had Clarke Kent and if the subtitles had Clarke Kent, this wouldn't even be an issue. I get Senator Paine isn't a major part of pop culture and this is very, very minor, but if the remake was "Mr. Smyth Goes To Washington" I'd buy this being deliberate, but a scenario is that it's just a misspelling which wouldn't be very usual since Paine and Payne sound the same or two they go to such effort to literally designing the Sen. Paine character to look like Claud Rains and say the same lines while copying his voice, but changed the spelling for no real reason and only did it for outside the episode. [[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 08:34, February 9, 2024 (EST) | ||
| + | :::The fact of the matter is that multiple official sources spell his name as "Payne" for The Simpsons. Disney+ subtitles, Simpsons World book, Simpsons World website script. It doesn't matter if there's a character in the real film called "Paine". In The Simpsons, he's called "Payne". And all my sources confirm this. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 10:03, February 9, 2024 (EST) | ||
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Is there really still a question? Snowball II (talk) 20:25, February 8, 2024 (EST)
- The Simpsons is not the same as the movie Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. They are different. And when the subtitles and Simpsons World give his name as Payne, not Paine, that is what we go with as that is what the show calls him. The Solar Dragon 06:53, February 9, 2024 (EST)
- I wouldn't push back this much except unlike a lot of other movie references or parodies, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" is so central to the episode and the episode itself so explicit about the real-world movie (to the point of literally having Jimmy Stewart's daughter). Unsure if you ever watched it, but it just looks weird having not being Senator Paine as much as this wiki had Clarke Kent and if the subtitles had Clarke Kent, this wouldn't even be an issue. I get Senator Paine isn't a major part of pop culture and this is very, very minor, but if the remake was "Mr. Smyth Goes To Washington" I'd buy this being deliberate, but a scenario is that it's just a misspelling which wouldn't be very usual since Paine and Payne sound the same or two they go to such effort to literally designing the Sen. Paine character to look like Claud Rains and say the same lines while copying his voice, but changed the spelling for no real reason and only did it for outside the episode. Snowball II (talk) 08:34, February 9, 2024 (EST)
- The fact of the matter is that multiple official sources spell his name as "Payne" for The Simpsons. Disney+ subtitles, Simpsons World book, Simpsons World website script. It doesn't matter if there's a character in the real film called "Paine". In The Simpsons, he's called "Payne". And all my sources confirm this. The Solar Dragon 10:03, February 9, 2024 (EST)
- I wouldn't push back this much except unlike a lot of other movie references or parodies, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" is so central to the episode and the episode itself so explicit about the real-world movie (to the point of literally having Jimmy Stewart's daughter). Unsure if you ever watched it, but it just looks weird having not being Senator Paine as much as this wiki had Clarke Kent and if the subtitles had Clarke Kent, this wouldn't even be an issue. I get Senator Paine isn't a major part of pop culture and this is very, very minor, but if the remake was "Mr. Smyth Goes To Washington" I'd buy this being deliberate, but a scenario is that it's just a misspelling which wouldn't be very usual since Paine and Payne sound the same or two they go to such effort to literally designing the Sen. Paine character to look like Claud Rains and say the same lines while copying his voice, but changed the spelling for no real reason and only did it for outside the episode. Snowball II (talk) 08:34, February 9, 2024 (EST)
