Talk:Dexter Colt - Revision history

Solar Dragon: Reverted edits by 80.233.60.25 (talk) to last revision by 80.233.59.74

2023-03-08T12:06:16Z

Reverted edits by 80.233.60.25 (talk) to last revision by 80.233.59.74

80.233.60.25: Forget this particular discussion ever took place. Everyone's time was just being wasted here.

2023-03-08T09:10:26Z

Forget this particular discussion ever took place. Everyone's time was just being wasted here.

80.233.59.74: /* What should be in this article and what shouldn't? */ if there are rules regarding block evasion, well, maybe these rules just have to be broken now and again

2022-12-13T22:13:32Z

‎What should be in this article and what shouldn't?: if there are rules regarding block evasion, well, maybe these rules just have to be broken now and again

80.233.57.195: /* What should be in this article and what shouldn't? */ truth is not everyone can or ever will agree on what should be there and what shouldn't

2022-12-13T21:58:25Z

‎What should be in this article and what shouldn't?: truth is not everyone can or ever will agree on what should be there and what shouldn't

Solar Dragon at 19:13, December 13, 2022

2022-12-13T19:13:54Z

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What should be in this article and what shouldn't?

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		+	==What should be in this article and what shouldn't?==
		+	I, personally, feel that there is enough about Colt that this article should only mention the most important details about him, and not every single detail.
		+
		+	For instance, "he told Homer that he charged $50 a day, plus expenses". That is true - but I consider that rather trivial, and less important than him ultimately charging Homer $1,000, including all those frivolous expenses.
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		+	Also, "he threatened to fire [[The Flying Giuseppe]] at Homer and Lisa; Homer pushed Lisa out of the way and got hit by the human cannonball; Homer then escaped into the Hall of Mirrors, with Colt chasing after him". Again, all true, but IMO a bit too trivial for this particular article - and rather better suited to [[The Dad Who Knew Too Little\|the article about the episode]], too.
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		+	I also feel that it should be mentioned straight away that Colt trashed the animal testing facility, as opposed to "someone". I somehow doubt that there are many people who are not familiar with this episode, nearly twenty years after it first aired (brrrrrrrrr...), and if one was watching it for the first time, chances are they'd work out straight away that Colt did it - especially when in the scene immediately before, he holds Homer at gunpoint for refusing to pay him, then swears revenge when Homer escapes. If it really must be said that "someone" trashed the facility, then - again - perhaps it's better suited to the article about the episode than it is to the article about Colt.
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		+	Finally, we see Colt being arrested, then the next time we see him in an episode he's helping out Burns. One has to assume that the events of "Four Regrettings" take place after the events of "Too Little" (especially as there were ten years between the two episodes), so is it not reasonable to explicitly suggest that the police released him and he went back to his job?
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		+	[[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:F1BE:9180:20F5:AB7B:5232:D3CB\|2A02:8084:F1BE:9180:20F5:AB7B:5232:D3CB]] 13:31, December 13, 2022 (EST)
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		+	:The article isn't too wordy and lengthy. The article is about the character, so more details are fine. There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written. And you've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:13, December 13, 2022 (EST)
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		+	::"This article isn't too wordy and lengthy." Solar Dragon, surely you know that just because you believe that does not mean that everyone else believes it too, or has to believe it? The world doesn't revolve around you, or indeed anyone else.
		+
		+	::"The article is about the character, so more details are fine." Whatever happened to "less is more", eh?
		+
		+	::"There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written." Again, just because you believe that does not mean that everyone else does, or has to (and the fact that no-one else has explicitly disagreed means nothing).
		+
		+	::Even if none of the actual words are changed, there is still one issue: one fairly short paragraph about Colt being hired by Homer and getting to work on Lisa, then one fairly long paragraph about everything else that happens afterwards, up to Colt's final defeat. Why is that better than, say, a separate paragraph for Homer refusing to pay Colt, and Colt trashing the animal testing facility and framing Lisa as retaliation?
		+
		+	::"You've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page." All right, I accept if there's a three-revert rule just like on the 'Pedia, and I accept if I've broken that rule. However... I do not accept if removing content just once is considered going against policy (unless, of course, it's content that every sensible person can consider pointless and irrelevant). Truth is, not everyone can or ever will agree on what should go in an article and what shouldn't - whether this be on the 'Pedia, a Fandom wiki, or indeed this wiki. To make it policy that every correct thing that goes into an article, no matter how trivial or relevant it is, stays - that might be satisfactory for some people, but unfortunately it isn't satisfactory for everyone.
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		+	::[[Special:Contributions/80.233.57.195\|80.233.57.195]] 16:53, December 13, 2022 (EST)
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		+	::May I hasten to add: I accept too if, again like the 'Pedia, there are rules regarding block evasion. But the truth is, sometimes rules might have to be broken in order to get points across. [[Special:Contributions/80.233.59.74\|80.233.59.74]] 17:12, December 13, 2022 (EST)

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−	~~==What should be in this article and what shouldn't?==~~
−	~~I, personally, feel that there is enough about Colt that this article should only mention the most important details about him, and not every single detail.~~
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−	For instance, "he told Homer that he charged $50 a day, plus expenses". That is true - but I consider that rather trivial, and less important than him ultimately charging Homer $1,000, including all those frivolous expenses.
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−	Also, "he threatened to fire [[The Flying Giuseppe]] at Homer and Lisa; Homer pushed Lisa out of the way and got hit by the human cannonball; Homer then escaped into the Hall of Mirrors, with Colt chasing after him". Again, all true, but IMO a bit too trivial for this particular article - and rather better suited to [[The Dad Who Knew Too Little\|the article about the episode]], too.
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−	I also feel that it should be mentioned straight away that Colt trashed the animal testing facility, as opposed to "someone". I somehow doubt that there are many people who are not familiar with this episode, nearly twenty years after it first aired (brrrrrrrrr...), and if one was watching it for the first time, chances are they'd work out straight away that Colt did it - especially when in the scene immediately before, he holds Homer at gunpoint for refusing to pay him, then swears revenge when Homer escapes. If it really must be said that "someone" trashed the facility, then - again - perhaps it's better suited to the article about the episode than it is to the article about Colt.
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−	Finally, we see Colt being arrested, then the next time we see him in an episode he's helping out Burns. One has to assume that the events of "Four Regrettings" take place after the events of "Too Little" (especially as there were ten years between the two episodes), so is it not reasonable to explicitly suggest that the police released him and he went back to his job?
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−	~~[[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:F1BE:9180:20F5:AB7B:5232:D3CB\|2A02:8084:F1BE:9180:20F5:AB7B:5232:D3CB]] 13:31, December 13, 2022 (EST)~~
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−	:The article isn't too wordy and lengthy. The article is about the character, so more details are fine. There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written. And you've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:13, December 13, 2022 (EST)
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−	::"This article isn't too wordy and lengthy." Solar Dragon, surely you know that just because you believe that does not mean that everyone else believes it too, or has to believe it? The world doesn't revolve around you, or indeed anyone else.
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−	~~::"The article is about the character, so more details are fine." Whatever happened to "less is more", eh?~~
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−	::"There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written." Again, just because you believe that does not mean that everyone else does, or has to (and the fact that no-one else has explicitly disagreed means nothing).
−
−	::Even if none of the actual words are changed, there is still one issue: one fairly short paragraph about Colt being hired by Homer and getting to work on Lisa, then one fairly long paragraph about everything else that happens afterwards, up to Colt's final defeat. Why is that better than, say, a separate paragraph for Homer refusing to pay Colt, and Colt trashing the animal testing facility and framing Lisa as retaliation?
−
−	::"You've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page." All right, I accept if there's a three-revert rule just like on the 'Pedia, and I accept if I've broken that rule. However... I do not accept if removing content just once is considered going against policy (unless, of course, it's content that every sensible person can consider pointless and irrelevant). Truth is, not everyone can or ever will agree on what should go in an article and what shouldn't - whether this be on the 'Pedia, a Fandom wiki, or indeed this wiki. To make it policy that every correct thing that goes into an article, no matter how trivial or relevant it is, stays - that might be satisfactory for some people, but unfortunately it isn't satisfactory for everyone.
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−	~~::[[Special:Contributions/80.233.57.195\|80.233.57.195]] 16:53, December 13, 2022 (EST)~~
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−	::May I hasten to add: I accept too if, again like the 'Pedia, there are rules regarding block evasion. But the truth is, sometimes rules might have to be broken in order to get points across. [[Special:Contributions/80.233.59.74\|80.233.59.74]] 17:12, December 13, 2022 (EST)

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		+	::May I hasten to add: I accept too if, again like the 'Pedia, there are rules regarding block evasion. But the truth is, sometimes rules might have to be broken in order to get points across. [[Special:Contributions/80.233.59.74\|80.233.59.74]] 17:12, December 13, 2022 (EST)

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	:The article isn't too wordy and lengthy. The article is about the character, so more details are fine. There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written. And you've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:13, December 13, 2022 (EST)		:The article isn't too wordy and lengthy. The article is about the character, so more details are fine. There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written. And you've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:13, December 13, 2022 (EST)
		+
		+	::"This article isn't too wordy and lengthy." Solar Dragon, surely you know that just because you believe that does not mean that everyone else believes it too, or has to believe it? The world doesn't revolve around you, or indeed anyone else.
		+
		+	::"The article is about the character, so more details are fine." Whatever happened to "less is more", eh?
		+
		+	::"There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written." Again, just because you believe that does not mean that everyone else does, or has to (and the fact that no-one else has explicitly disagreed means nothing).
		+
		+	::Even if none of the actual words are changed, there is still one issue: one fairly short paragraph about Colt being hired by Homer and getting to work on Lisa, then one fairly long paragraph about everything else that happens afterwards, up to Colt's final defeat. Why is that better than, say, a separate paragraph for Homer refusing to pay Colt, and Colt trashing the animal testing facility and framing Lisa as retaliation?
		+
		+	::"You've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page." All right, I accept if there's a three-revert rule just like on the 'Pedia, and I accept if I've broken that rule. However... I do not accept if removing content just once is considered going against policy (unless, of course, it's content that every sensible person can consider pointless and irrelevant). Truth is, not everyone can or ever will agree on what should go in an article and what shouldn't - whether this be on the 'Pedia, a Fandom wiki, or indeed this wiki. To make it policy that every correct thing that goes into an article, no matter how trivial or relevant it is, stays - that might be satisfactory for some people, but unfortunately it isn't satisfactory for everyone.
		+
		+	::[[Special:Contributions/80.233.57.195\|80.233.57.195]] 16:53, December 13, 2022 (EST)

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		+
		+	:The article isn't too wordy and lengthy. The article is about the character, so more details are fine. There is nothing wrong with the way the article is written. And you've broken policy by repeatedly removing content from the page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon\|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:13, December 13, 2022 (EST)

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		+	==What should be in this article and what shouldn't?==
		+	I, personally, feel that there is enough about Colt that this article should only mention the most important details about him, and not every single detail.
		+
		+	For instance, "he told Homer that he charged $50 a day, plus expenses". That is true - but I consider that rather trivial, and less important than him ultimately charging Homer $1,000, including all those frivolous expenses.
		+
		+	Also, "he threatened to fire [[The Flying Giuseppe]] at Homer and Lisa; Homer pushed Lisa out of the way and got hit by the human cannonball; Homer then escaped into the Hall of Mirrors, with Colt chasing after him". Again, all true, but IMO a bit too trivial for this particular article - and rather better suited to [[The Dad Who Knew Too Little\|the article about the episode]], too.
		+
		+	I also feel that it should be mentioned straight away that Colt trashed the animal testing facility, as opposed to "someone". I somehow doubt that there are many people who are not familiar with this episode, nearly twenty years after it first aired (brrrrrrrrr...), and if one was watching it for the first time, chances are they'd work out straight away that Colt did it - especially when in the scene immediately before, he holds Homer at gunpoint for refusing to pay him, then swears revenge when Homer escapes. If it really must be said that "someone" trashed the facility, then - again - perhaps it's better suited to the article about the episode than it is to the article about Colt.
		+
		+	Finally, we see Colt being arrested, then the next time we see him in an episode he's helping out Burns. One has to assume that the events of "Four Regrettings" take place after the events of "Too Little" (especially as there were ten years between the two episodes), so is it not reasonable to explicitly suggest that the police released him and he went back to his job?
		+
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